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Muslim Life Hackers
The Relaunch of The Muslim Life Hackers Podcast with Mifrah & Maheen
In this episode, Mifrah Mahroof and Maheen Malik talk about the show's return after seven years. They reflect on the past and share their vision for the show’s future, focusing on personal development and intentional living for the sake of Allah.
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The way I see muslim Life Hackers is that you are trying to get better every day, a little bit better every day, and it's not going to be like overnight changes. So as long as we're improving every day, I think that's a win.
Maheen Malik:Great.
Mifrah Mahroof:As-salamu alaykum, and welcome to the Muslim Life Hackers podcast. I'm your host Mifrah Mahroof. And this is the podcast where we get better every day through conversations with experts, leaders, and inspiring individuals. We're going to give you actionable insights to help you win in this life and the next. So if you're ready to level up in every area of your life, and if you're committed to living with excellence for the sake of your Lord. You're in the right place. Get ready for insights, inspiration, and a whole lot of life hacks. This is the Muslim Life Hackers podcast. Let's dive in. Well, Assalamu'alaikum everyone, guess who is back. Guess who is at it, again? Welcome to the Muslim Life Hackers show, where I Maheen Malik will be your host for just this episode, and I'll be interviewing the host of Muslim Life Hackers 2.0, the reboot. Mifrah, welcome to your own show. Thank you for coming. What can I say? That's a funny intro. I didn't expect to say welcome to your show..Well, Thank you for having me. It feels quite different being on the guest side. I am, so used to being on the interviewer side.
Maheen Malik:Gonna get grilled.
Mifrah Mahroof:Oh, well I can actually trust those words because I know you will grill me. So let's see how this goes.
Maheen Malik:Soft, grilling
Mifrah Mahroof:soft grilling, right?
Maheen Malik:A little friendly poking amongst friends. But yeah, so you know me along with all of the other subscribers on the Muslim Life Hackers, email list. We were all excited to receive the 2.0 reboot email, and I have a lot of questions. I know everyone else, our old long-term, long-time listeners from way back seven, eight years ago are also I'm sure curious and wanting to know what this new show is all about. And so I shall be the talking piece, the question. Uh, pursuing person, the one asking the questions for our audience. Your audience, about what this new podcast is gonna be all about. so I guess let's get into it.
Mifrah Mahroof:All right. Let's do this.
Maheen Malik:our last episode of Muslim Life Hackers was seven years ago. Like you said in the email, I did not realize that makes you feel a little. old, don't it? So seven years is a long time, the people wanna get to know you Mifrah. They wanna know who their host is. So what's changed in seven years? Tell us.
Mifrah Mahroof:What's changed in seven years? Seven years is nearly a decade, Maheen.
Maheen Malik:It is.
Mifrah Mahroof:So in a decade, a lot of things change in everyone's life, I would say. I mean, where do you begin? I mean, there are life situation changes.
Maheen Malik:Mm-Hmm.
Mifrah Mahroof:I'm no longer like single with my parents and very little responsibilities in my life. I have my own baby now. So it's like there are, obviously there's more responsible. Exactly. So more life responsibilities now. So it's so different to what it was seven years ago
Maheen Malik:and you're Are you ready to take on another big responsibility. Another baby, the podcast.
Mifrah Mahroof:Yeah, I know, right? It's so funny because the time I decided to reboot this, there's so many things going on in my life and
Maheen Malik:Mm
Mifrah Mahroof:I was like, Hey, well if not now, then when there is really no perfect time.
Maheen Malik:Mm. And I guess that kind of leads me into the next question that I was wanting to know was what made you want to revive the podcast? And like you said, you're in like the busiest time of your life. You've got all the most responsibility that you've ever had. job, career, family, children, you know, it's all child.
Mifrah Mahroof:children,
Maheen Malik:Sorry, I'm including Muslim Life Hackers as one of your children. So children, you know, it's all Going, it's all happening. Um, but you've also, you've decided to pursue the podcast again. I mean,
Mifrah Mahroof:Yeah,
Maheen Malik:What kind of triggered that? Why, have you decided to come back?
Mifrah Mahroof:So it's interesting that you ask, Well, here's the thing. over these years,.. Muslim Life Hackers has always had a special place in my heart. It really represented something that I felt back then in my early twenties, really, that I wanted to build a podcast where I can learn about personal development and catered for the Muslim audience from different, Muslims and, speakers and experts and top performers around the world. And that was my whole idea behind it. And then That was because I was really passionate about, personal development and growing myself. I mean, the term personal development doesn't really sound that great, but the way I see it is like,
Maheen Malik:it really mean? Words?
Mifrah Mahroof:I know, right? So it's more like, how do I grow myself continuously? Because the thing is, it's like the more and more you grow The better human being you become, And so over the years I was like, Hey, let me try different things. So after we left Muslim Life hackers and we paused it, I still let it run in the background. So the thing that not many people may know is that the podcast was still going on in the background. Although there was no new episodes published, we still, had Muslim Life Hackers running. So the bills were still being paid to actually host that. And so we were still getting messages from people saying, Hey, when is your podcast coming back? And people were still downloading their episodes. And then it was only very recently, like say in the past two years, where I was like, Hey, why am I keep, paying these bills to host a podcast that's dead pretty much, right? And so I was like, okay, well let me pull the plug and, and cancel it. But I guess, that was one side of it. because I was like, Hey, nothing is happening, let me cancel it. But then on the other hand, what was also happening is in my day-to-Day Life, I was just getting asked by people, Hey, you had a podcast? Muslim Life Hackers, what happened to that? And I was like, oh, you know, I got trying different things in life, right? And then I guess I was getting asked that from like all these people from like different circles in my life, right? And, people who are not even into personal growth would ask me. And then I started to have, even my non-Muslim creator friends tell me when I was, telling them about, Hey, I used to do podcasting and it was like a Muslim personal development show. And they're like, you should do that again. And I was like, yeah, I guess so. And then. So it was just all these voices and then I was asking Allah for guidance at that time. It's like, shall I do this back again? And I just think that Allah SWT sent all these people to tell me, Mifrah, start the podcast, start the podcast. And I was like, no, no, no. I'm waiting for another sign. Or I don't know, like I think I was like trying all these different things. And I guess in a way, the best way I can put this is like the book, the Alchemist, right? You try to find your treasure. And you go everywhere to search for that treasure, and then you just come back to where you started. But in the process, you grow as an individual and I think everything happens at its perfect time. And although, life might be very chaotic for me right now, it's a perfect time.
Maheen Malik:That's like, it's like so many things in life. You've been paying bills on this, on the podcast for how many years, and you're like, what? You know, nothing's happening.
Mifrah Mahroof:Yeah, exactly.
Maheen Malik:Why am should paying these bills next minute? random people in your life
Mifrah Mahroof:Random people.
Maheen Malik:what happened to so-and-So podcast. And, it really is like, well it's, you know, as Muslims we do believe in, fate and like things that are written for us and things have meaning in our life, that's how we interpret being a Muslim. And, it just makes sense that it would happen that way. you telling me that story, I'm like, of course that had to happen that particular way. and it just feels right. Okay. So moving on from, I guess where, the desire came from to wanting to start the podcast again. I know you've been talking about it, just personally in our social lives. You and I are close friends. We've known each other for over a decade. and I know that it's been something that's been on your mind for a long time, so I'm definitely one of those people who have been like, okay, also wanting to ask you about it or also hoping that maybe you'd revive it again. But moving on from that, let's talk about Let's talk about the future. Let's talk about what's to come. So what are you aiming to do with the podcast and how is it gonna be different to what you and I were working on seven, eight years ago?
Mifrah Mahroof:Yeah,
Maheen Malik:What's new? what can the listeners look forward to?
Mifrah Mahroof:so I guess every project we do is really gonna be a reflection of who we are at that time, right? So at that time when we had very little responsibilities, personal development was really just about how do you be more productive? How do you work better because everything else is taken care for you. And also your, body bounces back as well. I remember how we went out one day Maheen and you didn't sleep the entire night and then you were driving the car.
Maheen Malik:novel
Mifrah Mahroof:And I was like, Maheen, like, how can you do this? But we were young and we were in our twenties, and we were able to just like bounce back. And the reason I mentioned that is because we had those blessings, it didn't, it wasn't so important to have to consider all these different areas of our life in terms of, growth. And now reviving it again, I see Muslim Life Hackers as being, A podcast that will explore all the different areas that we need to grow. So not just productivity, I would say, health wealth, work, relationships, deen, and also contribution. And it took me some time to actually intentionally write down and break these areas. I know that, person development can be broken into like different areas, but these are the the six areas that I've found that really represents what I'm trying to aim in Muslim Life Hackers. Because the thing is, if we don't consciously grow in these areas, then we just go downhill. Simple as that. When we age, unfortunately, if we don't look after these things, it doesn't bounce back like back in the days, it's gonna come back and you have to pay the consequence of that.
Maheen Malik:Scary.
Mifrah Mahroof:I sound so bleak though,
Maheen Malik:know, something, you know, something struck me as you were saying, that it's that, going back to, the perfect time for things, perhaps, you know, As you aged, you are a different person. You have different needs. the podcast that we were doing seven, eight years ago was really fulfilling our needs as you know, early 20 something year olds, what we needed at that time. But now you need something else. And there's a whole, cohort of people. A lot of Muslims out there who need the same thing as you and I at this age, at this kind of wisdom level, at this kind of life experience level. And you have something different to say and we have different needs, like what you said, contribution health. These things are different to, when we're just coming out of our teenage years
Mifrah Mahroof:I guess being, older made me realize that personal growth is really a holistic thing and it touches on all areas of your life and not just one area.
Maheen Malik:mm Exactly. Well true words. Okay, let me see what else I've got to grill you on, Mifrah. So Mifrah, what I wanna know off the back of that question is Muslim Life Hackers is aiming to do important work. We have different needs at this time. We have different, goals and aspirations and things like that. So it sounds like Mifrah, you've got some lofty goals for the podcast. Would you say that the work that you're doing is important for the Ummah.
Mifrah Mahroof:That's a very lofty thing to ask.
Maheen Malik:I'm grilling
Mifrah Mahroof:Well, here's the thing, I think everyone has a part to play, depending on their own strengths and. What Allah SWT has blessed them with. And for myself, I am being someone who loves personal growth and is also a very tech geeky person. And when I merge all of these things together, a podcast really is something that comes easy to me. So because of that, this is just my contribution. So if I were to break down the areas of. our life in order to see, how do we improve it? I would put this inside my contribution part of my life. And the reason why it's so important to me, and I think this also made me realize this is when I became a mother, I also start to realize, hey, like what am I also leaving back? Like what am I showing my own daughter and in terms of being a role model and also exposing her to ideas of growth and all of these things. And so I also felt it was a responsibility for me to be able to give back in that way so that she also has things as well to learn from. this is just my contribution. And Allah SWT at the at the end asks us to put in our effort. That's And it's up to him how the results are gonna be. Because so long as our efforts are accepted, then you know what, that's a lofty goal and that's a win at the end. And that's my
Maheen Malik:Insha your efforts
Mifrah Mahroof:ultimate are accepted, and I know the listeners will appreciate your sincerity and what you're trying to do and what you're trying to offer them as well. Yeah, exactly. Because like we live in this society where it's very result focused and it's like, okay, what result can I actually get? But the thing is, it's not about our result in Islam, it's about our efforts. And I think keeping that in mind keeps us doing things even though we may not see the effect of this today.
Maheen Malik:So we've known each other for quite a while and like I said a little earlier, I know that you've been thinking about wanting to start up the podcast again. Now kind of getting into the more kind of maybe technical or personal, I dunno where you wanna take it, but there was definitely barriers to you. Straightaway picking up the podcast again and just going, running forward and just going for it again.
Mifrah Mahroof:Yeah.
Maheen Malik:Could you share with the listeners, what was going on in the background? What were some of the, barriers that you were facing in coming back to content creation and coming back to, what you were meant to do.
Mifrah Mahroof:Hmm. That's a very good question. One big barrier I would say is anxiousness. And some people call it creator anxiety. It's just overthinking it and then kind of feeling paralyzed because of that. And it's like I have to I Want to do this. But then when you sit down on the computer, you're like, what am I working on? Like, I've got a hundred things and, I'm also anxious about putting myself out there, what my friends think. Mifrah's gonna do something crazy again. Although my friends kind of do know I'm crazy It's just so, it's one like your best qualities So it's one of, so it's these things that goes in your head that really stops you from taking action. And I think that happens when you're not in the ring, so to say, when you are so used to living
Maheen Malik:when you're not a player anymore.
Mifrah Mahroof:exactly when you're so used to being on the audience seat and then suddenly you're pushed onto the ring, you're like, oh my gosh. But, it only gets better with time. So the interesting thing I found was that as I got started, it became easier, slowly, slowly. Like, I still have a lot of challenges that I need to keep pushing myself, but it's getting easier. The more and more I do it, and the way I see it is that I try to aim for progress instead of perfection. So the first time I do something, if it's chaotic, my files are everywhere. My notes are everywhere. I'm writing on a hundred piece of paper. I was it's, okay. It's just get it done the first time and then you can start optimizing and creating systems.
Maheen Malik:a hundred percent. And I mean, You are like the perfect example. You were podcasting, years ago and you were doing it well and it was a successful podcast. You step out of the game for a while, the anxiety creeps in and it's like so many other things in life. It's kind of like, use it or lose it. You know what I mean? Um, and now you're back in and slowly You know, going
Mifrah Mahroof:slowly getting
Maheen Malik:number one, charts okay. Something more technical. and we were talking before the show about how, the software has changed in the podcasting sphere. Tech technology has changed. You know, we talk about how technology's change. Month by month. How has podcasting, how has the podcasting world, the game, the technology, wherever you wanna take it, how has it changed since we were doing it back then?
Mifrah Mahroof:A lot I found. when I think about the technologies that we used back then, it was like ancient, like we were using like I don't know, an ax to actually used to, you don't use cut a tree anymore, but it was like, it feels really ancient because like right now there are many technologies and softwares that are there to make the process more streamlined from recording to actually editing it. So these things do get easier. And of course we also have ai, we also have chat GPT. But it's not that these things replace us because chat GPT can never replace your authenticity, it would give you a starting point. It's like when we Google it's there, it will give you a starting point, but you always have to go back and edit it and suit it to your intentions and your ideas that you wanna convey. So I would say it definitely has streamlined the process a lot and I think we're in an exciting time. I mean, I do love technology, so.
Maheen Malik:Hmm. So it sounds like it's a good time to start a podcast.
Mifrah Mahroof:Yeah, exactly. It's a great time to start a podcast, I would say. But I wish I started in during the Covid pandemic though.
Maheen Malik:Mm.
Mifrah Mahroof:but
Maheen Malik:That was a good time. Everyone was inside
Mifrah Mahroof:was a good time, right, because everyone was in Yeah. Was inside. And, and it was said that, all the people who actually launched something during that time, YouTubers, Podcasters, they all had really good success because of that unique time actually. But anyway, we always say, I wish I did it before, but I mean the second best time is today.
Maheen Malik:Exactly the second best time is today. We did focus a lot on productivity in Muslim Life Hackers 1.0. And I know we've kind of touched on it a little bit earlier about how the focus is gonna be a little bit different now, but going back to productivity and it's kind of vague meaning, do you think that you are more productive now? I'm sure all our listeners are curious.
Mifrah Mahroof:To learn
Maheen Malik:are you all productive?
Mifrah Mahroof:Was I productive to start off with?
Maheen Malik:I think we were trying, we were like, we're talking about it, so we must be more productive.
Mifrah Mahroof:Ooh, we're trying that. I'm still trying today.
Maheen Malik:A hundred percent. yeah.
Mifrah Mahroof:I guess the thing is that the way I see Muslim Life Hackers is that you are trying to get better every day, a little bit better every day, and it's not going to be like overnight changes. I want to be able to bring to you, experts, leaders, top performers, and inspiring individuals to help you a little bit every day in different areas of your life. And that's my whole aim because change doesn't happen overnight. So as long as we're improving every day, I think that's a win.
Maheen Malik:Great.
Mifrah Mahroof:And With the right intentions. So doing it for the sake of Allah, and I think that's what makes Muslim Life Hackers unique to the other personal development things out there. Because, people might think, oh, why do Muslims need a personal development thing? I mean, it's a, it's a fair point because what we do say about personal development is very similar to what is out there. But I guess what would make it different when it's actually special to a Muslim audience is that we know that our intentions for doing this is not so that we can be, a successful entrepreneur or we wanna earn X, Y, Z amount of money. It's really for the pleasure of Allah SWT and that's a very important thing to keep in mind.
Maheen Malik:and
Mifrah Mahroof:that's our win at the
Maheen Malik:end to to forget, you know what I mean? Like so easy to get in the rutt of life, and not really Have in the forefront that, you know, anything can be an act of worship, being intentional about, going to work every day or, making a meal for your child or taking care of your health.
Mifrah Mahroof:Yeah,
Maheen Malik:if we're not, in the, if we're not intentional, then it's just really just another action, just broadly course. Yeah.
Mifrah Mahroof:Exactly. So when we are intentional, we can insha Allah be successful in this life and at the hereafter. And I think that's the whole thing, that Muslim
Maheen Malik:That's how you hack life
Mifrah Mahroof:to aim for that. Pretty much. That's how you hack lives, guys.
Maheen Malik:Okay. Now you did kind of say guests a little earlier,
Mifrah Mahroof:Yes.
Maheen Malik:We won't give any, spoilers on who's coming up on the podcast, I'm curious to know, do you have any dream guests that you'd love to get on the podcast? No barriers, no restraints. Who do you want on Muslim Life hackers?
Mifrah Mahroof:To be honest, I really need to think about that. I,
Maheen Malik:You do?
Mifrah Mahroof:yeah, I, I need to think about that and I don't have that answer
Maheen Malik:I don't know why I expected you to say Saarah Khan or something like that. Okay. Well maybe shoot me will answer this question in one of our next episodes.
Mifrah Mahroof:Saarah Khan
Maheen Malik:get back to us. Don't dodge. Okay.
Mifrah Mahroof:No promises. No
Maheen Malik:Okay. so I think, people have got a good idea of, I guess, what's to come Mifrah and what they're gonna expect from you and where your Headspace is at with reviving the podcast. Let's go to, I guess, some core questions that I know that you're gonna be asking each of your guests on future episodes. So, Mifrah, could you tell the audience what is one hack that has improved your life?
Mifrah Mahroof:What is one hack? Okay, my question's back at me. So I would say one hack that's, improved my life is so, it's part of a bigger hack, So it's, it's, it's a whole thing about setting up good routines and sinking your body clock to the circadian rhythm. And that's easy to do as Muslims because we have our prayers, which is scheduled around different parts of the day. So Fajar is when the morning light, the sunlight comes out, and then you have Maghrib where like the sunny setting, right? And so one of the hacks that's really benefited me is after Fajar actually going walking outside. even staying in my backyard or just opening up my window inside the house and while the red light is coming out doing my Adhkar. So I would say the hack is really going out and walking. in the morning and doing Adhkar at the same time while the sun is rising because there's three things that gets established at that time. So you get to spiritually nourish yourself. You get to mentally nourish yourself'cause you feel refreshed seeing the day open up, the birds flying. And you also get to physically nourish yourself as well. And so that's like three in one. And that's been a game changing hack for me actually. A side point actually, when you do get to see that red light in the morning, you get to also, your body actually produces the hormones in your body to be able to sleep better at night. So everything connects
Maheen Malik:But it sounds like a plan. I mean, everything comes, seems to come back to sleep all the time. Don't you think? Like, oh my goodness, if you just get your sleep right, everything will be good. Beautiful. you and I are both, you know, big readers. We love to read, you know, ever since I've known you, you've, been a crazy reader all the time. I wanna know, what is your favorite book and how has it helped you level up in life? Because I know that you're always recommending self-help books to me, or, nonfiction books on, whatever topic to me. And, they're always great and they're always, deep and like insightful and full of meaning. And, I'm curious, after so many years, what is your favorite book?
Mifrah Mahroof:Now when it comes to books, like I was actually going, looking through like the books that I'm reading now and it's really reflective of the challenges that I'm having in my life right now. So one book might be about how to train a baby and how to get to sleep So.
Maheen Malik:I thought you were gonna say how how to
Mifrah Mahroof:you So yeah. So it's, it's like I, I find myself now it's books are not just about self-help and productivity because now you have different challenges in your life and you try to search for books that can help you. And I think that
Maheen Malik:Hmm. You're becoming an expert in new things.
Mifrah Mahroof:yeah. Yeah. So I think books play a really good role in, being unique to every person's situation. But if I were to go back to the whole personal development and, growth, one classic book that I really love and it's an old one, it's the one which is at Atomic Habits by James Clear. I feel that I can go back to that book many and it's just a really simple message on like small things add to big change. And I think that's also influenced. The way I even see, my own life a lot. And really it's in line with that whole thing in Islam where it's that Allah SWT loves that, which is small, yet they're consistent. And so that's what, that's why I guess I really like that book a lot that's helped me a lot in my
Maheen Malik:growth. Yeah. I find myself recommending that one as well because it's so,
Mifrah Mahroof:I'd say it's a good starting anybody.
Maheen Malik:Yeah. It's a good
Mifrah Mahroof:it's not like a fluff fluff or you're great, think yourself great, blah, blah, blah. Like I've been through all of these books and they kind of get boring
Maheen Malik:We've seen all of them, all shades.
Mifrah Mahroof:Yeah. They get pretty boring fast
Maheen Malik:I know it. And it's kind of, there's only so much to say, I guess say, but what changes is people's stories about how they get to where they are? the message is usually generally the same, but I guess how People's life experiences is what really at attracts us as human beings to what they're saying. Well thank you for sharing that book, atomic Habits. If you guys haven't heard of it, I'm sure it's not at any of your bookstores. Go in, pick it up. It's great. I guess getting to the tail end of our interview, Ms. Mifrah, I'm sure the listeners wanna know, I guess when they can expect the next episode. We're all waiting. We're all on the edge of our seats, so what's the schedule gonna be like, or, what, when can listeners expect the next episode or future episodes? Or do you have like a schedule in mind yet? Or, or what, what is it looking like?
Mifrah Mahroof:at this point while we're recording, my aim is to have a weekly show, but with regards to what day I'm gonna be scheduling it, I'm still. Kind of, trying to work, that out at this point. But weekly show, I know that when we ended off Muslim Life Hackers those many years ago, we actually turned into a seasonal format. But I wanted to actually try, a weekly show instead and, you know, see if that's sustainable and keep on going. There is that whole trial and error. I, I don't have all the answers, but I'm gonna give it a shot and see how it goes. But I'm gonna make sure that I have the systems built in so that It can, keep in mind my situation Yeah. Of juggling many things. And so that's why it's just taking me a little bit longer to just put everything together and, release the podcast. Actually, if you're listening to this, it's released so We're recording this in like start of December. Yeah. Yeah. we're actually re recording this in the start of December, so there's just a lot of work that's going on on in the background, and I just wanna make sure that it's, Sustainable for me, especially if work decides to throw a curve ball at me and it gets even more
Maheen Malik:they always do this time of year,
Mifrah Mahroof:Yeah, exactly. Right. And then my daughter, you can't really predict a baby. She actually lost one of my, stands. So actually before this interview I trying to
Maheen Malik:toy.
Mifrah Mahroof:camera stand and I was like, oh, back in the days I would leave something and it just stays there. And we were, and I was asked my husband like, where's my stand? I have to hold a camera. And then we found her on the couch. Under all these clothes.
Maheen Malik:She's gonna be your co-host in a few years. That's what's gonna happen.
Mifrah Mahroof:Exactly.
Maheen Malik:Okay. oh, she's such a cutie. so I guess people should wait to hear from you in the newsletter and. I guess you'll be confirming the schedule on there and what's to come and who else is going to come on the podcast as guests? so at the moment we're aiming for weekly, and that sounds really great. so listeners look out for the next newsletter from Muslim Life Hackers, where Mifrah will let you know what she has planned and who she has planned to come on the podcast and all the new exciting news that's gonna be coming out on Muslim Life Hackers. Mifrah, any closing words, any last minute comments.
Mifrah Mahroof:Well, Maheen since. You like to throw curve balls at me? I'd like to ask you a question.
Maheen Malik:Oh no, I did not sign up for this.
Mifrah Mahroof:Mifrah Yes. Too
Maheen Malik:balls.
Mifrah Mahroof:Too late.
Maheen Malik:Okay. Okay. What's a curve
Mifrah Mahroof:So I wanna know, what was a positive memory that you had of Muslim Life Hackers when we were hosting this and doing this together back in the days.
Maheen Malik:Honestly, I wanna say just everything was like positive. And I think, going back to the anxiety thing that we spoke about, I mean, it's something that, you know, everyone struggles with anxiety and. I think working on the show together, putting our voice out there, putting our face out there, that was nerve wracking. And it
Mifrah Mahroof:I remember first episode panic. My voice
Maheen Malik:I hated listening to our voices, but I think, through that, I learned that, I can do anything, we can do anything. We can, make a great podcast. We can put it out there. And it was just fun. we were like two friends coming up with like weird, wacky, silly, funny ideas, sending emails to authors for interviews and then somehow they'd reply, yes, I'll come on your show,
Mifrah Mahroof:Yeah, I must say, when we were younger, I feel like you're just more impulsive
Maheen Malik:I
Mifrah Mahroof:and you're not
Maheen Malik:your brain's not developed
Mifrah Mahroof:Your brain's not developed. So then you start like messaging, like randoms, and I'm like very, very prominent authors and stuff. You're Hey, come on my podcast. And they're like, okay.
Maheen Malik:And you're like, oh, no. Regret
Mifrah Mahroof:Exactly. And it's like, now I kind of understand. And I was like, oh, can I really contact that person? And I was like, no, no, no, Mifrah. Pretend you're that 20-year-old crazy self. Exactly right.
Maheen Malik:Yeah, a hundred percent. I think just those memories of like learning that nothing is impossible, nothing is out of your reach. And like what, coming back to what you said earlier, little by little. Small things at a time and like it, it snowballs into something bigger and bigger and, it was all just like a beautiful journey. It definitely brought us together close as friends and, our friendship is something that I, I cherish and, our families are close and things like that. So I think it was all around, all around good vibes, good love, positivity, and to get over that anxiousness of fear, of judgment, fear of like putting myself out there, Looking a bit like foolish, but everyone looks foolish once in a while. it's good to look foolish that's my answer to you, miss curve ball.
Mifrah Mahroof:That. Well, thanks for sharing that Maheen. I feel good having, pushed you off the host seat for a bit and now I'm back on.
Maheen Malik:I know you're gonna do great and I know this podcast is gonna really be a good friend to people who need it. And they do. Like, people are always searching for meaning and advice and, a shoulder. And, I know this will be that for a lot of people.
Mifrah Mahroof:Thank you so much.
Maheen Malik:That's it. Make sure you look out for the next email from Muslim Life Hackers and Mifrah letting you know when the next episode is out.
Mifrah Mahroof - Podcast Ending:Hey everyone, that wraps up another episode of the Muslim Life Hackers podcast. I really hope you enjoyed our chat today and got some great takeaways from it. If you like what you heard and don't want to miss out on our next conversations, hit that subscribe button. It really means a lot to us and helps us grow the show. And you know what? If you're feeling extra generous today, drop us a review or a rating. I'd love to hear your thoughts. Thank you again for tuning in until next time, keep striving and getting better every day.
